#1685 - Shane Gillis
The Joe Rogan Experience
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0:00:01Conversation with Stanhope in Bisbee, Arizona
This section narrates a conversation between the speakers about living with Stanhope in Bisbee, Arizona, detailing experiences and observations. The dialogue includes discussions on Stanhope's habits, lifestyle, and interactions. Topics range from the unique characteristics of Bisbee to humorous anecdotes shared by the speakers, reflecting on drinking preferences and social interactions. The conversation delves into personal experiences, anecdotes, and reflections on comedic routines and social dynamics among comedians.
0:04:17Understanding Comedians and Their Humor
This section delves into the comedian's perspective on humor and the fine line between authenticity and 'talking shit.' The conversation explores the historical context of intoxication, highlighting the use of psychedelic substances in ancient Greece. Furthermore, the dialogue touches on the concept of complaints in modern society compared to the harsh realities of the past. The banter between the individuals showcases a mix of casual conversation and shared experiences, reflecting on eccentric behaviors and unique travel adventures.
0:08:58Discussion on Ari's Lifestyle Choices and Comedy Shows
This section delves into Ari's unconventional lifestyle choices, emphasizing his strong value for freedom and independence. It highlights his background and the significant courage it took to break away from a strict religious community. The conversation touches on Ari's comedy career, his dedication to stand-up, and the dynamic nature of his performances. The dialogues reflect on the essence of comedy, the diverse audience reactions, and the vibrant comedy scene in Austin. It encapsulates the blend of humor and controversy in Ari's comedic style, acknowledging the inevitable backlash while celebrating the joy and enthusiasm of his live shows.
0:12:58The Duality of Fun and Danger in Different Environments
This section delves into the contrasting experiences of fun and danger in various settings. The conversation touches on the necessity of balance in life, drawing parallels between sunshine and rain, light and dark. It highlights the unpredictability of life, emphasizing the need for variety and challenges. The discussion extends to the evolving crime rates in cities like Los Angeles and Philadelphia, noting the shift in dynamics post-COVID. The text explores the concept of resilience through anecdotes and observations, depicting a blend of humor and reflection on societal changes.
0:17:18Conversations about Comedy Life and Wild Parties
This section captures a casual conversation about pursuing stand-up comedy, living in different locations, and comedian behavior. The dialogue reflects on the comedian lifestyle, uncertainties about moving, and the humor and chaos of wild parties. Shared anecdotes reveal experiences with fights, destructive behavior, and chaotic party situations, highlighting the unpredictable and intense nature of social gatherings.
0:21:52The Tale of the Wrestling Match
This section narrates a humorous incident involving a large man nicknamed John O'Mearz who, at 24 years old and weighing 350 pounds, playfully used wrestling moves on kids, leading to a chaotic situation where the kids retaliated. The conversation delves into the technicality and potential damage of wrestling moves like the walls of Jericho and Boston crab, emphasizing the positional disadvantage and pain inflicted. The dialogue explores the comedy and embarrassment in MMA fights, including the significance and shame of tapping out to a wrist lock. It concludes with humor and acknowledgment of the entertaining yet concerning aspects of such grappling scenarios.
0:26:16Discussion on Jujitsu and Gender in Sports
This section discusses the experience of practicing jujitsu, highlighting the humbling realization when paired with a female opponent who can outperform. The conversation delves into gender dynamics in sports, reminiscing about girls playing football with boys and the evolving landscape of female participation. The discourse also touches on a transgender individual in sports, sparking a humorous debate on gender identity perceptions in society. The dialogue humorously scrutinizes an unconventional rugby player and critiques the media's handling of gender labeling in controversial cases.
0:31:00Discussion on Pedophilia and Social Taboos
This section delves into a controversial conversation about pedophilia and societal views, highlighting the complexities and moral dilemmas surrounding the topic. The discussion touches on the concept of sexual orientation, contrasting progressive ideals with the inherent taboo of pedophilia. The dialogue explores the challenging task of justifying unacceptable behaviors and the mental gymnastics people engage in to rationalize extreme views. Furthermore, the discourse extends to issues of race and racism, dissecting the notion that only certain groups can be labeled as racist and the power dynamics at play. The text culminates in a personal account of navigating the aftermath of a highly publicized cancellation, shedding light on the impact and complexities of instant fame and subsequent notoriety.
0:36:14Stand-Up Comedy Audition and Experience
This section narrates an audition experience in a totally empty studio where the individual had to perform stand-up for writers, producers, and Lorne Michaels. Despite the nerves, the comedian delivered a successful performance, defying expectations. The story continues with a callback, a solo meeting with Lorne Michaels, and the decision to join the cast instead of becoming a writer due to negative accounts of the writing environment. The comedian's unconventional background and podcast content were accepted, leading to a mixed reception upon the show announcement. Subsequently, multiple articles scrutinized the individual's past remarks, highlighting the challenges of podcast content and public perception in the comedic sphere.
0:41:32Navigating Online Criticism and Comedy Sketches
This section delves into the experience of handling online criticism and the impact it can have, highlighting the vulnerability that arises from reading comments. The narrative shifts to a situation in Lorne Michaels' office, showcasing the fear of potential firing and the relief of avoiding it. The conversation progresses to the aftermath of facing cancellation and the development of resilience over time, emphasizing the importance of gaining immunity from such moments. The dialogue touches on the power dynamics behind cancel culture and the positive recognition of comedic sketches like 'Gilly and Keeves' amidst adversity. The exchange extends to praising the creative work of other comedians like Kyle Dunnigan and the innovative use of face swap technology in political satire, underscoring the brilliance and impact of unconventional comedic platforms.
0:46:26Navigating Cancel Culture and Comedy
John McKeever, known as Keeves, a talented writer and comedian, discusses the complexities of cancel culture and comedy. Addressing the discomfort surrounding the topic, he emphasizes the importance of not getting attached to corrupting influences and advocates for understanding context and nuance in creative endeavors. McKeever questions the oversensitivity towards racial jokes and highlights the fear of repercussions, leading to a culture of silence and censorship. Through personal experiences and examples, he showcases the misconceptions and challenges faced by comedians in navigating humor in a sensitive society.
0:51:39Stand-up Comedy and Context: A Comedian's Perspective
This section delves into the comedian's perspective on stand-up comedy and the importance of context. The discussion highlights how comedians intentionally take material out of context to create humor, emphasizing the fine line between offensive and funny. The text explores the uncertainty in comedic performances and the process of refining material based on audience reactions. It also touches on the repercussions of controversial statements, the pressure to issue statements of apology, and the impact on personal and professional life. The conversation depicts the evolution of a comedian through experiences that strengthen their resolve, despite facing criticism and threats. It sheds light on the challenges of navigating stand-up comedy, dealing with audience perceptions, and the personal toll of public scrutiny on private life.
0:56:08Handling a Controversial Situation
In the midst of controversy surrounding inappropriate remarks, the individual reflects on their experience, from initial pride to facing accusations and pressure to issue apologies. Caught off guard by the sudden scrutiny, they resist submitting a crafted statement until compelled by external pressures, leading to a rushed and lackluster response. The complexity of navigating public perception and balancing comedic boundaries emerge as they grapple with the demand for accountability, ultimately highlighting the blurred lines between intention, impact, and the pressure to apologize.
1:01:09Navigating Comedy and Cancel Culture
This section delves into the aftermath of a controversial performance and the repercussions faced by the comedian. Receiving overwhelming support from fans amid a public backlash, the comedian reflects on the surreal experience of fame and infamy. Despite enduring a challenging period, he finds solace in returning to stand-up comedy, highlighting its raw and therapeutic essence. The dialogue explores the complexities of cancel culture and the inherent freedom of expression found in the world of comedy, emphasizing the resilience and introspection demanded by such trials.
1:06:22Exploring OnlyFans and the Adult Entertainment Industry
This section delves into a conversation about the dynamics of platforms like OnlyFans, the challenges faced by individuals in the adult entertainment industry, and the impact of technology on traditional porn business models. The discussion touches on the lucrative opportunities and addictive nature of earning large sums through these platforms, juxtaposed with the potential challenges of transitioning away from such income streams. The drastic shift from DVD sales to free online content has reshaped the industry, leading to financial struggles for many producers and male actors. The narrative also explores the exploitation and financial implications faced by performers, highlighting the evolving landscape of adult entertainment in the digital age.
1:11:27Exploring Perspectives Through Comedy
This section delves into the humorous and reflective discourse on human behavior, relationships, and societal expectations presented in a conversation. The dialogue touches on the comical yet profound impact of self-reflection after engaging in personal activities like 'beating off.' It highlights the complexities of desire, social interactions, and the primal instincts that govern human behavior. The discussion extends to the challenges faced by individuals in a sensitive and scrutinizing environment, emphasizing the resilience and unpredictability of comedic expression amidst changing cultural norms. Ultimately, the exchange underscores the enduring significance and freedom of comedy as a platform for genuine communication and societal commentary amidst shifting sensitivities and perceptions.
1:16:21Cancel Culture and Comedy
This section discusses the phenomenon of cancel culture in the comedy industry, focusing on the backlash against comedians like Louis C.K. The text highlights how mediocre comics often seize the opportunity to gain social clout by attacking prominent figures like Louis C.K. The narrative delves into the known allegations against Louis C.K., revealing a lack of public condemnation until the news broke, showcasing the opportunistic nature within the comedy community. Drawing a parallel to nature, the text likens the dynamics to buffalo behavior, where vulnerability attracts attacks. The conversation shifts to a documentary about lions and water buffalo, illustrating genetic adaptations and survival strategies. The topic transitions to a personal experience of facing repercussions for controversial remarks, culminating in a tense meeting with NBC executives and the decision to be fired rather than resigning.
1:22:16Discussion on Comedy, Controversy, and Media Response
This section delves into the discourse on comedy, controversy, and media reactions. The dialogue highlights the dynamics of public outrage, insincere apologies, and the consequences of pushing boundaries in comedy, particularly in the context of podcasts. The conversation underscores the fine line comedians navigate when trying to evoke laughter and the repercussions of breaching societal norms. It touches on the aftermath of controversial statements, the impact on professional relationships, and the comedian's perspective on embracing artistic freedom. The narrative captures the complexity of managing public perception, defending past expressions, and choosing creative autonomy over mainstream opportunities, amidst evolving societal sensitivities and media scrutiny.
1:27:08Discussion on Zodiac Killer and Cancel Culture
This section delves into a conversation about infamous criminals like the Zodiac Killer and the challenges of navigating cancel culture. The discussion touches on the mystery surrounding the Zodiac Killer's identity, theories involving unlikely suspects like Ted Cruz, and the impact of being 'canceled' amidst the COVID-19 pandemic. The dialogue highlights the complexities of maintaining authenticity in creative expression while facing scrutiny, emphasizing the importance of establishing genuine connections with the audience despite external pressures. The speaker reflects on personal experiences with cancel culture, public perception, and the role of criticism in creative pursuits, ultimately underscoring the resilience needed to persevere in the face of adversity.
1:32:23Stand-Up Comedian's Reflections on Comedy Journey
This section delves into the comedian's introspective reflections on the journey of improving at stand-up comedy. The comedian recalls a period of harsh criticism towards others, which stemmed from personal struggles and insecurities in their own performance. Meeting and interacting with comedians they previously disparaged led to a realization of their own shortcomings. The text also highlights the discrepancy between live performances and televised specials, emphasizing the unique magic of witnessing comedy live. The process of filming a special is discussed, revealing the mix of pressure and self-doubt experienced by comedians during these pivotal moments in their careers.
1:37:28Stand-Up Comedy and Specials: Timing and Influence
This section reflects on the importance of timing in preparing for stand-up comedy specials. The conversation highlights the process of refining jokes over time, comparing the readiness of material to aging wine or whiskey. It emphasizes the significance of allowing bits to mature before presenting them, drawing insights from experiences of other comedians like Louis C.K. and the benefits of waiting at least two to three years between specials. The discussion also touches on the impact of YouTube in promoting comedy specials, citing successful examples like Andrew Schulz and the collaborative efforts that led to creative successes.
1:42:05Celebrity Life Realities
This section delves into the peculiarities of being a well-known figure, highlighting the fleeting moments of normalcy amidst constant public attention. The conversation reflects on the challenges of maintaining genuine interactions amidst fan interactions, especially when faced with the intrusive nature of fame. The discussion also touches on encounters with individuals experiencing schizophrenia and the prevalence of such cases within society. The narrative captures the absurdity and occasional humor in navigating fame and the eccentricities that come with it, offering a glimpse into the unconventional aspects of celebrity life.
1:46:43Discussion on Internet Culture and Memes
This section delves into the discussion about internet culture, particularly focusing on Reddit, the alt right movement, and the phenomenon of Pepe the Frog. The conversation navigates through the evolution of online communities, the impact of anonymity, and the controversy surrounding certain online ideologies. Highlighting the challenges of free speech and the complexities of online interactions, the narrative touches upon the unique incidents of Kekistan and Shia Labeouf's flag, underscoring the fascinating, albeit sometimes contentious, nature of internet phenomena and social dynamics.
1:52:13Exploring Comedy and Cancel Culture
This section discusses the comedic experiences and challenges faced by a stand-up comedian amidst controversies surrounding corporate ownership and cancel culture. The conversation delves into the complex and wild nature of stand-up comedy, highlighting the dedication and resilience required for success in the field. The importance of distinguishing true stand-up comedians from amateurs and the impact of cancel culture on the comedy community are explored, portraying a candid view of the industry's dynamics and struggles.
1:57:05Shane Gillis Stand-Up Comedy Journey
This section narrates the comedic journey of Shane Gillis, detailing his early struggles and questionable performances at a comedy club. Shane reflects on his inexperience, including crashing a wedding in a drunken state and facing the consequences. Despite initial failures, Shane's confidence grew after winning a comedy competition, leading him to pursue stand-up in Philadelphia and eventually New York. His history degree proved useless, pushing him to take the leap into comedy full-time, leaving behind a job investigating children's crimes. Through perseverance and dedication, Shane transitioned from selling cars to pursuing stand-up, facing the challenges and uncertainties of the comedy scene in various clubs like Helium. The conversation highlights Shane's resilience and determination amidst the highs and lows of his comedy career.
2:01:55The Potential of Stand-Up Hub
This section discusses the potential for a unique stand-up comedy hub to emerge, separate from mainstream showbiz institutions, and thrive as a network of podcasts. The discussion highlights the influx of talented comedians like Segura, Pappas, and others to the location, creating a vibrant community of both established and up-and-coming comedians. The focus is on providing a supportive and encouraging environment for comics, reminiscent of Mitzi Shore's Comedy Store era, where wild creativity thrived amidst non-conformity and resilience against cancel culture pressures. The vision is to establish a club that fosters creativity, comfort, and the freedom to push boundaries, echoing the ethos of trailblazers in stand-up comedy history.
2:07:41Understanding Cancel Culture and Hurt People
This section delves into the phenomenon of cancel culture and the correlation between experiencing deep pain and engaging in relentless attacks. It highlights the vicious nature of cancel culture, often driven by individuals who have been bullied or hurt in their lives, leading to a lack of compassion. The discussion touches on the impact of honesty in facing backlash and the desire for love and acceptance. The text also reflects on the negativity of attacking others and the consequences of cancel culture, emphasizing the importance of understanding and empathy in interactions.
2:13:02Comics' Close Friendships in the Stand-Up Comedy World
This section describes the challenges faced by comedians in navigating close friendships within the stand-up comedy community. The text explores the insecurities and desires of comics for love and attention, highlighting the rarity of genuine support and camaraderie in the industry. It delves into the isolation and resentment experienced by successful comedians who lack genuine connections with their peers, emphasizing the importance of having comic friends who understand and support each other. The conversation touches on the dynamics of social media, the significance of staying true to oneself amidst fame, and the unique qualities of comedians like Bill Burr who maintain authenticity amidst success and fame. The discussion also reflects on the podcasting world and the value of having a supportive producer or co-host to create a lively and engaging dynamic. Overall, the text illuminates the complexities and nuances of interpersonal relationships and professional dynamics in the comedy realm.
2:18:18Conversation on Cancel Culture and Reflection
This section delves into a discussion on cancel culture, reflecting on experiences of being criticized and scrutinized by others. The conversation touches on various topics such as encounters with celebrities, music preferences, and interactions on social media platforms like Twitter. The speaker expresses feelings of self-doubt and introspection, contrasting with the lack of accountability perceived in those who engage in canceling. There is a sense of self-awareness and contemplation surrounding past actions and responses to criticism, highlighting a nuanced perspective on personal growth and empathy towards others.
2:23:30Discussion on Gender Pronouns and Social Justice
This section discusses the evolving use of gender pronouns and social justice activism, reflecting on the inclusion of pronouns in social media bios. The conversation delves into the varying perspectives on gender identity, highlighting the spectrum of human experiences and the complexities of gender norms. It explores the dual nature of humor and sensitivity in addressing these topics, emphasizing the importance of individual expression and understanding. The dialogue transitions to a humorous take on life's absurdities, touching on topics like space exploration, billionaire ventures, and the unpredictability of mortality. The banter intertwines reflections on comedy, mortality, and the unpredictable nature of life's events, capturing the essence of embracing the chaotic and diverse aspects of existence.
2:28:21Reflections on Life and Death
This section delves into contemplations on life and death, sparked by the legacy of George Carlin and personal experiences. The narrative traverses themes of mortality, family, and the complexity of medical interventions near the end of life. Reflecting on the desire for a peaceful death, the discourse transitions to an anecdote about drug experiences, blending humor with introspection. The intertwined tales touch upon the longing for a euphoric exit from life and the unpredictable outcomes of experimental drug combinations.
2:33:13Psychedelic Experiences and Ego Death
This section describes a conversation about psychedelic experiences, particularly involving a combination of drugs like MAO inhibitors and mushrooms. The dialogue delves into the profound effects of these substances on thought processes and communication abilities, recounting intense visions and reflections on life and ego. The discussion explores the impact of mindset on psychedelic journeys, highlighting the transformative nature of these experiences and their lessons. It also touches on the shared perceptions during altered states, referencing sleep paralysis and encounters with surreal entities. The narrative concludes with a personal reflection on an ego-dissolving encounter with 5 MeO DMT and the profound insights gained from confronting one's seriousness and self-perception.
2:39:41Reflection on Self-Image and Comedy Journey
This section delves into a reflective conversation centered on self-perception, ego, and the journey of a comedian. The narrator recounts an experience where jesters symbolically give him the finger, triggering a realization about not taking oneself too seriously. The conversation extends to the significance of embracing failure in comedy as a means to reignite enthusiasm and creativity. The pressure of performing at prestigious venues like The Cellar is contrasted with the necessity of exploring new material and maintaining a diverse set of skills, akin to a fighter's training regimen. The discussion also touches on recent events in the world of MMA, highlighting the importance of addressing underlying injuries and the need for a comprehensive approach in skill development.
2:44:59Conor McGregor's Fight Analysis: A Savage Champion
This section highlights the intensity of Conor McGregor's fight, emphasizing his resilience and skill despite a broken leg. The discussion delves into McGregor's fighting style, Dustin Poirier's dominance, and the anticipation of future matchups. Insight is provided on McGregor's dangerous start in fights, Poirier's endurance, and the strategic errors in the match. Additionally, the summary touches on the legendary status of Nate Diaz and the dynamic rivalry between McGregor and Diaz. The conversation praises Poirier's victory and McGregor's superstar presence in the MMA realm, showcasing post-fight interviews and pre-fight banter between McGregor and Diaz.
2:51:13Conor McGregor Predicts Victory in UFC Fight
In this section, Conor McGregor confidently predicts victory in his upcoming UFC fight, displaying no concerns about his opponents, Nick and Nate. McGregor asserts that the fight is purely business, emphasizing his determination to dominate. With a focused and aggressive tone, McGregor foresees a decisive win by knocking out his opponent. He strategically plans to overpower his rival with swift moves and intends to capitalize on any opening to secure victory. McGregor remains unaffected by the surrounding hype and Irish fan support, exuding unwavering confidence in his skills and strategy. Amidst interview provocations and media antics, McGregor maintains his composed demeanor, showcasing his self-assured character and unwavering focus on emerging victorious. Despite past interactions and reflections on his journey, McGregor's mindset remains resolute on achieving greatness and solidifying his position as a prominent figure in the MMA world.
2:56:29Discussion on Post-Fight Reactions and Fighter Mentality
This section illustrates the emotional intensity of post-fight reactions, focusing on a fighter's shattered leg and the raw emotions experienced. The text delves into the dichotomy between financial success and the willingness to face formidable opponents in the MMA world, highlighting Conor McGregor's bold fighting choices. The dialogue also portrays the contrasting styles and mentalities of fighters like Khabib Nurmagomedov and Max Holloway, emphasizing Khabib's undefeated legacy and Max's endurance and skill. The intense dynamics of the MMA world, from emotional outbursts to strategic decisions, are vividly portrayed in this conversation.
3:01:54Khabib Nurmagomedov: A Dominant Force in MMA
This section delves into the impact of Khabib Nurmagomedov in the world of mixed martial arts. The conversation highlights Khabib's dominance and influence on other fighters like Conor McGregor, Nate Diaz, and the sport as a whole. Khabib's work ethic, resilience, and no-nonsense approach are contrasted with flashy personalities, showcasing the importance of tough competitors like him. The narrative also describes Khabib's post-fight actions, emphasizing his intensity and dedication to his craft. The discussion extends to other fighters like Francis Ngannou, portraying them as real-life warriors with fascinating backgrounds and exceptional abilities. The text captures the essence of authentic fighters and their captivating stories in the realm of professional sports.
3:07:15Analysis of UFC Fighters and Matches
This section delves into the discussion on the physical strength and abilities of UFC fighters, particularly focusing on the impact of weight on punching power and the intensity of fights. The conversation highlights renowned fighters like Derek Lewis and Cyril Gane, emphasizing the potential matchups and knockout power within the heavyweight division. The text also praises fighters like Sean O'Malley and Chris Moutinho for their resilience and skills in the Octagon, mentioning impressive fight statistics and memorable post-fight interviews. Additionally, the anticipation of the upcoming Nick Diaz vs. Robbie Lawler fight adds to the excitement and admiration for the Diaz brothers' endurance and athleticism, known for their participation in triathlons.
3:12:24Shane Gillis Podcast Wrap-up
This section captures the concluding moments of a conversation between Shane Gillis and another individual on social media presence, promoting the 'Matt and Shane Secret Podcast' and 'Gillian Keyes' sketch show on YouTube. The exchange expresses excitement and enthusiasm for the sketch show, inviting viewers to check it out as it is acclaimed as a top-notch production.