#1826 - Fahim Anwar
Episode

#1826 - Fahim Anwar

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Summary

This episode elaborates on a casual conversation at a comedy club, touching on topics like enjoying bourbon on round ice, the vibrant comedy scene in Los Angeles, and the influence of social media platforms on the comedy industry. It discusses Fahim Anwar's journey with his comedy specials, and the challenges faced with the CISO platform. The section explores the evolving comedy scene during the pandemic, the influence of censorship on comedians, and the dynamics of self-hate among comedians. Additionally, it delves into the art of comedy performance, influences in the comedy industry, and reflections on societal norms. The discussion transitions to topics like food colorings, flavorings, and the nuances of dressing etiquettes in social settings.

Outlines

0:00:01Casual Conversation at a Comedy Club

This section captures a casual conversation at a comedy club featuring discussions about enjoying bourbon on round ice, the vibrant comedy scene in Los Angeles, the appeal of live comedy shows over TV, and the influence of social media platforms like YouTube on the comedy industry. The conversation also touches on the strategy of distributing comedy specials on multiple platforms for wider exposure, giving credit to Schultz for paving the way for comedians to embrace online platforms and prioritize audience engagement over immediate financial gain.

0:04:59Fahim Anwar's Comedy Specials and The Comedy Store

This section details Fahim Anwar's journey with his comedy specials, particularly highlighting the challenges he faced with the CISO platform. Despite the obscurity of CISO, Comedy Dynamics produced his special, which was later licensed to Comedy Central's YouTube. Anwar's transition from his old special, 'There's No Business Like Show Business,' to his new one, 'Hat Trick,' filmed at The Comedy Store, showcases his thoughtful approach in sequentially performing in different rooms to capture the essence of the venue. The special also features candid conversations with fellow comedians like Theo, Tim Dillon, and Santino, providing a behind-the-scenes look and capturing the essence of being a comic at The Store. Filmed amidst the changes of early 2021, the special offers a unique perspective on the evolving comedy scene during the pandemic, highlighting Anwar's artistic journey and the challenges of gaining visibility in the comedy industry.

0:10:18Reflections on Comedy and Creativity

This section delves into the world of comedy, discussing the hustle and dedication required to succeed in stand-up. The conversation highlights the different paths comedians can take, including transitioning to writing during the pandemic. The challenges and allure of the writing world are explored, emphasizing the importance of not losing touch with the stand-up roots. The exchange touches on underrated comedians like Owen Smith and the conundrum of balancing writing success with stand-up aspirations. It praises individuals like Trey Parker and Matt Stone for their comedic genius in creating iconic shows like South Park, showcasing the significance of artistic vision and creative freedom in producing quality content.

0:15:23Impact of Censorship on Comedians

This section discusses the influence of censorship on comedians, focusing on the departure and return of Dave Chappelle. The text highlights how financial success led to meddling and censorship attempts, prompting Dave's departure. It praises Dave's legendary move of vanishing for 10 years, only to return triumphantly and face criticism for his comedy content. The discussion extends to societal shifts in free speech, with the left being critiqued for suppressing humor and the right championing comedic freedom. Insights on human nature during the pandemic, such as the impact of government aid on work ethic, are also explored, emphasizing challenges faced by business owners in hiring. The narrative emphasizes the complexities of ideological shifts and personal beliefs in today's diverse landscape, underscoring the evolving dynamics in the world of comedy and societal norms.

0:21:59Challenges in Comedy Industry

This section discusses the challenges faced in the comedy industry, particularly regarding platform restrictions and content selection. The conversation highlights the limitations imposed by certain platforms like Netflix, where up-and-coming comedians struggle to find their place due to preset brand images and ideological influences. The discussion touches on the impact of corporate ideologies on comedy content, emphasizing the preference for humor over political correctness. The speakers advocate for platforms like YouTube as a more diverse and open marketplace for comedy, allowing for a broader range of comedic expression without conforming to specific agendas. The narrative underscores the importance of comedic freedom and audience reception as essential factors in shaping the industry, with references to successful comedians breaking through traditional barriers and setting new standards for creative autonomy.

0:27:36Organic Networking in Comedy Circles

This section highlights the shift in the comedy industry towards organic networking, where comedians support each other by collaborating on podcasts, stand-up shows, and specials. The traditional approach of late-night talk shows is contrasted with the more authentic connections formed within the comedy community. The emphasis is on recommendations and endorsements from fellow comedians, which hold more weight than traditional show appearances. The behind-the-scenes glimpse provided by podcasts and social media has brought a new level of transparency to the audience, who now appreciate the raw and authentic nature of comedy performances. Stand-up specials filmed in familiar venues like The Comedy Store offer a more genuine experience compared to highly produced and orchestrated sets. The essence of live performances is captured by the unscripted reactions of the audience, contrasting with the artificiality of televised shows with scripted applause signs. The conversation also delves into the challenges of being typecast, as comedians like Brody Stevens struggled to translate their live presence to filmed content. The unique charisma of live performers like Don Barris is best experienced in intimate club settings rather than in the structured environment of TV warm-up gigs. Some comedians, like Joey Diaz, defy easy capture on camera, retaining their true essence only in live settings. The analogy of attempting to tame a zebra highlights the untamable nature of certain comedic talents, whose magic is best witnessed in their natural element.

0:32:54Fascinating Insights into Dog Behavior and Nature's Creatures

This section delves into a captivating discussion about pet wolves, the endearing qualities of golden retrievers, and the remarkable behavior of dogs. The conversation highlights the unique characteristics of Marshall, a lovable and friendly golden retriever who surprises guests with stuffed animals instead of shoes. The speaker reflects on the innate fetching instinct of dogs, comparing Marshall's immediate grasp of the concept to the reluctance of previous pets. The narrative extends to anecdotes about a cat named Cosmo who enjoyed playing fetch, emphasizing the diverse and entertaining behaviors of pets. Moreover, the conversation briefly touches on the intriguing world of bats, observing their nightly emergence in masses from beneath a bridge and shedding light on their critical role in balancing the insect population. The exchange concludes with a surprising fact about the migratory patterns of bats to Mexico, highlighting the dynamic and wondrous nature of these nocturnal creatures.

0:37:29Imagining a World with Universal Flight

This section discusses the concept of universal flight and its implications on global borders. The dialogue explores a hypothetical scenario where jet packs allow everyone to fly, rendering borders obsolete. It delves into the idea of a world where people can freely travel, highlighting the desire for a global community with opportunities, freedom, democracy, and thriving environments. The conversation transitions to the unique atmosphere of Austin, the growth in population, and the vibrant nightlife during Memorial Day weekend. Additionally, it touches on creating a comics-focused club, the Comedy Mothership, with a vision of providing health insurance for comedians. The importance of hard work, encouragement, and community support in the comedy scene is emphasized, driving personal growth and creativity.

0:43:04Developing Comedy Skills

This section explores the importance of developing comedy skills within a supportive atmosphere, emphasizing the need for feedback from peers and the audience. The process of crafting jokes is likened to molding clay, with the audience acting as the editor that refines and shapes the material. The conversation delves into different approaches to stand-up comedy, including writing, improvising, and refining material on stage. It highlights the significance of knowing when to experiment with new material versus sticking to proven sets, drawing insights from experienced comedians on balancing performance and innovation in the comedy scene.

0:48:44Challenges of Stand-up Comedy at Different Stages

This section highlights the challenges and aspirations of stand-up comedians at various stages in their careers. The conversation delves into the struggles of creating new material, the pressure to release a comedy special, and the balancing act between pursuing one's passion and meeting personal obligations. It explores the dynamics of starting comedy at a later age, emphasizing the perseverance and dedication required in the stand-up comedy domain. The narrative also touches on the subjective nature of success in the entertainment industry, showcasing the desire to see talented individuals achieve widespread recognition. The importance of maintaining artistic integrity and embracing the journey without expectations is underscored, encouraging continuous growth and authenticity in one's craft.

0:54:51Stand-up Comedy at The Comedy Store

This section narrates a stand-up comedy performance at The Comedy Store where the comedian showcases a raw and authentic style, focusing on the essence of comedy without elaborate dressing or theatrics. The comedian introduces Faheem Anwar, praising his exceptional joke writing skills. The conversation delves into the uniqueness of performing at The Comedy Store, highlighting the camaraderie among comedians and the challenge of standing out in a lineup. The emphasis is on the authenticity and simplicity of the performance, capturing the essence of making strangers laugh in a genuine setting. The discussion also touches on the evolving landscape of comedy, where artists are taking control of their careers and exploring new avenues like online platforms to showcase their talent.

1:00:44Comedy and Television

This section delves into the relationship between comedians, television appearances, and club performances, highlighting differing perspectives on the impact of TV projects on a comedian's career. The discussion touches on the influence of clean versus dirty comedy, contrasting views on the path to success in the comedy industry, and the challenges faced by comedians in balancing their stage personas with audience expectations shaped by TV appearances. Through anecdotes and insights, the conversation illuminates the evolving landscape of comedy and the pursuit of success in the entertainment industry.

1:05:48Chasing Love through Stand-Up Comedy

This section delves into the dynamics of self-hate among comedians, particularly focusing on the pursuit of audience approval and love through humor. The conversation highlights the varying motivations behind developing comedic material, touching on the challenges faced by female comedians and the prejudices they encounter. The discourse explores the skepticism towards women in comedy, emphasizing the need for female comedians to consistently prove themselves funny. Additionally, the discussion praises the comedic talent of women like Whitney, showcasing their dedication to the craft and unique approaches to stand-up. The conversation then takes a humorous turn, exploring the extreme sport of Florentine football in England or Italy, where intense physical clashes occur in a soccer-like setting, creating a chaotic spectacle akin to simulated warfare without weapons.

1:11:05Calcio Florentino and Steak Cooking Techniques

This section discusses Calcio Florentino, a unique sport where teams change sides after each goal, emphasizing precision in shooting. The game concludes after 50 minutes with the team scoring the most goals emerging victorious. Originating from Florence, the sport mirrors the city's reputation for steak cooking, particularly the renowned Steak Florentine prepared over open flames. The conversation delves into cooking methods, from grilling to Traeger pellets to hardwood logs, highlighting the flavor-enhancing process of slow cooking over coals and the significance of searing for taste. The ritualistic aspect of cooking over fire is explored, evoking primal instincts tied to sustenance and survival, akin to the thrill of successful hunts. Transitioning to a discourse on fishing, the excitement of a catch parallels ancestral gratification in securing food. The exchange extends to the catch-and-release practice in bass fishing, reflecting on the paradoxical nature of the sport. The dialogue shifts to seasoning steaks, with a preference for simple kosher salt or specialty seasonings like OG, emphasizing the challenge of seasoning and searing without residue. The culinary narrative encapsulates a blend of traditional cooking practices, technological aids like temperature probes, and the innate satisfaction derived from mastering the art of open-flame steak preparation.

1:16:24Seasoning Meat and Steak: Flavors and Techniques

This section discusses the art of seasoning meat and steak, emphasizing the importance of simplicity and precise temperature control when cooking wild game like elk. The conversation delves into different types of salts, including truffle-infused salt, and the unique flavor profiles they impart. It also touches on seasoning blends like the blackened Saskatchewan rub for elk, highlighting the need to enhance the natural flavors of the meat without overpowering it. The debate between enjoying meat with minimal seasoning versus flavorful sauces like chimichurri is explored, showcasing varied preferences in enhancing the taste of steak. Additionally, the discussion transitions to steak sauces such as A1 and HP, debating their ability to elevate even a simple dish like a Waffle House steak. The narrative unfolds to include steakhouse experiences, with recommendations for classic spots like Eddie V's in Austin, Texas, known for its traditional steakhouse ambiance and menu. The dialogue concludes with humorous anecdotes about dressing etiquettes at upscale dining establishments, reflecting on awkward experiences with loaner blazers and societal norms in fine dining settings.

1:21:17Gender Rules in Attire

This section humorously discusses the gender-specific dress codes enforced in certain establishments. The conversation delves into the double standards where women can wear revealing attire while men are expected to adhere to formal dress codes. The dialogue explores the idea of challenging these norms, including the acceptance of men wearing feminine attire like sundresses or kilts, highlighting the complexities and absurdities of societal clothing standards. The mention of kilts leads to a humorous exploration of Scottish traditions and the practicality of kilts during battle. Overall, the discussion reflects on the nuances and contradictions in dress codes and gender expectations in social settings.

1:26:00MMA Fighters and Wild Fights

This section discusses the eccentricities and extreme matchups in MMA, particularly focusing on fighters from Pride. It delves into the unconventional attire of Melvin Manhoef, a powerful and unique kickboxer, known for fighting in skirt-like shorts. The text also highlights freak fights in Pride, such as Bob Sapp towering over opponents like Nogueira and the diverse talents of heavyweight fighters like Fedor Emelianenko, Fabrizio Verduem, Cain Velasquez, and Stipe Miocic. The narrative reflects on Pride's acquisition by the UFC and the absorption of its fighters into the UFC ranks, ultimately leading to the dissolution of Pride.

1:32:01Reflections on MMA's Unique Era with the Japanese Influence

This section reminisces about the end of the Pride era in MMA, highlighting the uniqueness and challenges of following the Japanese martial arts events. From watching fights at odd hours to avoiding spoilers, the podcast conversation delves into the captivating and unconventional nature of the era. Featuring discussions on freak show fights, contrasting martial arts styles, and iconic matchups like Akebono versus hoist Gracie, the dialogue portrays a blend of entertainment, skill, and strategy in the early days of MMA. Through detailed commentary on historical fights and techniques, the segment sheds light on the evolution and excitement of mixed martial arts during its formative stages.

1:37:31Reflections on the Pandemic and Choices

This section reflects on the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on personal freedoms and societal decisions. It discusses the varying responses in different locations, particularly in Los Angeles, regarding outdoor shows and individual choices. The conversation delves into the arbitrariness of restrictions, questioning the logic behind universal isolation and the effectiveness of containment strategies for highly contagious diseases. The dialogue highlights the inevitability of exposure to the virus, the concept of natural immunity, and the future outlook, suggesting a shift towards endemicity. The discussion also touches on the psychological aspects of fear, comparing different health threats and societal norms. Furthermore, the narrative explores the temptations of unhealthy habits and indulgences, using Krispy Kreme donuts as a metaphor for common vices and the challenges of resisting them. Ultimately, the exchange contemplates the prevalence of detrimental but appealing products in modern society and the enduring struggles individuals face in making healthier choices amidst pervasive influences.

1:43:42Discussion on Food Colorings and Urban Legends

This section discusses the complexity of food colorings and flavorings, emphasizing the importance of researching their safety and potential health risks. The conversation delves into urban legends, including misconceptions about Mountain Dew containing harmful ingredients and humorous myths about testicle shrinkage. It also touches on the urban legend surrounding Marilyn Manson. The dialogue highlights concerns about food additives, preservatives, and their potential negative effects. The conversation humorously references the 'urban legend' of a link leading to an unexpected image, reminiscent of a prank, illustrating the lighthearted banter among friends. Transitioning to music, the discussion explores the storytelling aspect of classic songs and the nostalgia of a bygone era where music conveyed narratives and inspired dreams of fame. It reflects on the romanticized notion of rock stars and contrasts it with modern fragmented entertainment culture, symbolized by the comparison to current SNL cast members. The conversation muses on the fleeting nature of fame, channeling the notion that 'the good die young' through references to iconic figures like James Dean and Jimi Hendrix.

1:50:14Memory and Music: A Timeless Connection

This section reflects on the everlasting impact of memories and music. It delves into the nostalgia and time-traveling properties of music, highlighting how songs connect individuals to specific moments in time. The discussion touches on the power of music to evoke emotions and trigger vivid recollections, transcending age and circumstances. The conversation explores the unique ability of music to resonate deeply with individuals, even triggering memories in those with Alzheimer's or dementia. Furthermore, it delves into the educational aspect of music, showcasing how songs can help ingrain information in our minds effectively. The exchange also touches on the contrast between music, a heart game that directly impacts emotions, and comedy, a brain game that relies on humor and wit. The dialogue concludes with reflections on the challenges of combining music and comedy in a performance setting, emphasizing the dominance of music in creating lasting impressions on audiences.

1:55:38The Art of Comedy: Balancing Crowd Work and Jokes

This section discusses the art of comedy performance, highlighting the contrast between crowd work and prepared jokes. It delves into the unique appeal of spontaneous crowd work, emphasizing its ability to set the room on fire and create an ethereal quality. The text emphasizes the importance of blending crowd work and jokes seamlessly to engage the audience effectively. Furthermore, it explores the diverse styles and approaches in comedy showcased in venues like the Comedy Underground, Giggles, and The Store, where comedians adapt to varied lineups and audience preferences. The conversation also touches on the evolution of comedic techniques, from avoiding swearing as a crutch to embracing colorful language as seasoning. The importance of staying true to one's comedic style and being authentic while acknowledging influences is highlighted, along with the growth process of recognizing and transcending derivative performances.

2:00:59Discussion on Influence in Comedy Circles

This section discusses the influence of certain comedians like Dave Attell in the comedy industry, emphasizing how their unique styles and jokes have inspired other comedians. The text highlights Attell's underappreciated brilliance and sharp humor, particularly noting his significant influence on the New York comedy scene. It delves into Attell's evolution as a comedian, from his early success with 'Insomniac' to overcoming a drinking problem and improving his act. The conversation praises Attell's dedication to stand-up comedy and his ability to captivate audiences with his brilliant jokes and consistent performances. It also touches on his partnership with Jeff Ross in 'Bumping Mics' and reflects on his renowned performances at comedy clubs like Comedy Works in Denver. Overall, the discussion celebrates Attell as a comedic genius at the peak of his career.

2:06:00Discussion on ASMR and Online Support for Artists

This section narrates a conversation about ASMR, online platforms for artists, and financial support. The dialogue explores the fascination with ASMR, including unconventional content like cooking ASMR and ear eating sounds. It delves into the internet's role in creating specialized economies and discusses the concept of OnlyFans as an alternative source of income. The discussion transitions to Patreon as a means for artists to receive support, highlighting the value of donation-based models and the example of Sam Harris's podcast subscription approach. The conversation illustrates the evolving landscape of online content creation and audience support.

2:10:54Content Creation Model and Cancel Culture

This section discusses the concept of a content creation model similar to a subscription-based approach where high-quality, intellectually stimulating content is provided by an individual named Sam, leveraging his online reputation. The conversation delves into the value of setting up a system where accessibility isn't solely based on affordability, fostering a sense of legitimacy and goodwill among viewers. It contrasts business-driven strategies with community-centric approaches and explores the dynamics of trust and fan engagement in the entertainment industry. The dialogue touches on the evolving landscape of technology and art, emphasizing the significance of a dedicated fan base over mass appeal. Furthermore, it addresses the nuances of cancel culture in the entertainment industry, highlighting the complexities of public perception, social status, and opportunistic behaviors observed when influential figures face controversies. The discussion reflects on the interconnected dynamics of talent, success, criticism, and personal attacks prevalent in the media environment, shedding light on the multifaceted nature of public response and accountability in the digital age.

2:17:23Discussion on Movie Empowerment, Nostalgic Films, and Fighter Jet Pilots

This section discusses the empowerment portrayed in movies like GI Jane, highlighting the positive impact of comparing oneself to a hero. It delves into the nostalgia of classic films like Smokey and the Bandit and explores the anticipation for upcoming films amidst current global uncertainties. The conversation shifts to the intense training and challenges faced by fighter jet pilots, emphasizing the physical and mental demands of the job, including the complexities of managing g-force pressure during high-speed maneuvers.

2:22:45Discussion on Fainting, Trauma, and Reactions

This section delves into the phenomena of fainting, trauma responses, and the body's automatic protective mechanisms. The conversation explores how some individuals have a predisposition to fainting and how specific triggers can lead to blackouts. It highlights instances where people, even with professional expertise, react unexpectedly to stimuli, such as a dentist fainting at the sight of severe sunburn on his son. The discussion extends to inherited fainting tendencies, akin to a genetic trait, and the body's instinctive shutdown in response to trauma. The narrative evolves into a detailed analysis of physical trauma reactions, drawing parallels to knockout instances in boxing matches and the body's defense mechanism of shutting down to mitigate shock. The dialogue also touches on the democratization of talent and creativity in the digital age, with references to innovative content creation, including boxing animation accounts and the proliferation of memes. Ultimately, it reflects on the evolving landscape of content distribution and the balance between creative freedom and platform control.

2:28:03Social Engineering and Control: The Dangers of Enforcing Ideologies Through Violence

This section discusses the implications of banning individuals with differing opinions and the use of social engineering to enforce ideologies. The conversation delves into the restrictions imposed in China, highlighting the horrors of the single child household policy and the gender imbalance it created. The narrative extends to the extreme measures taken, such as forced abortions and the intergenerational consequences of dissent. The discussion also touches on the challenges of upholding socialist or Marxist ideals through coercion and violence, using examples like North Korea's totalitarian control. Through anecdotes and reflections, the dialogue sheds light on the realities of social oppression and the dire situations faced by individuals living under oppressive regimes, contrasting the freedoms enjoyed by others in a more privileged context.

2:34:29Golf Adventures in North Korea

This section narrates a golf enthusiast's amusing encounter at the North Korean Open, where the annual tournament on the Pyongyang golf course presents a unique experience. Despite its relaxed atmosphere and modest competition, a discrepancy in scorekeeping led to a humorous misinterpretation in the North Korean state news, attributing an unlikely number of holes-in-one to a novice player. The conversation then delves into a playful discussion about hustling in golf, highlighting the strategies and psychology involved in gambling on the green. The speaker shares personal experiences with pool hustlers and reflects on the distinctions between casual players and elite professionals, emphasizing the importance of focused practice and dedication to elevate one's skill level in the sport.

2:40:02Insight into Cue Ball Wizardry and Practice in Pool

This section highlights the skill and precision of a top-tier pool player, breaking world records and mastering cue ball control with finesse. The player's strategic practice routines, innovative pool glove use for consistency, and ability to anticipate and execute shots flawlessly are underscored. The conversation also delves into the parallels between pool practice and comedy performance, emphasizing the importance of continuous improvement and reinvention in honing one's craft over time.

2:44:48Creativity in Comedy

This section describes a comedian's journey of following his creative intuition and passion to create a unique comedy special. Despite the uncertainties in the comedy world, the comedian focuses on producing a piece of art that truly reflects his essence. The conversation highlights the significance of creative freedom and the challenges of filming comedy specials at renowned venues like the Comedy Store. It emphasizes the importance of protecting comedians' work and allowing them the space to develop and refine their material without premature exposure. The discussion also criticizes the premature judgment of comedy performances, stressing the iterative and evolving nature of comedic craft.

2:49:48Reflections on Comedy and Cancel Culture

This section delves into a conversation about the intersection of comedy, cancel culture, and societal evolution. The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by comedians, particularly in navigating sensitive topics and past content in the context of changing standards. It emphasizes the importance of assessing comedic performances with understanding and context, highlighting the impact of societal norms on humor over time. The dialogue also touches on the role of social media in perpetuating cancel culture and the mental toll it takes on individuals. Through introspection and self-critique, the speakers express the necessity of maintaining integrity in their craft and handling criticism with resilience. The nuances of artistic expression, audience reception, and self-assessment in the realm of stand-up comedy are explored, underscoring the dynamic nature of comedic creativity amidst evolving social landscapes.

2:55:46Fahim Anwar's Comedy Special

This section describes Fahim Anwar's new comedy special named 'Hat Trick' available on YouTube. Fahim Anwar highlights his journey and comedic style through this 47-minute show, providing viewers with a comprehensive representation of his humor. He emphasizes the significance of this special as a defining piece of his work, showcasing his talent and identity. Fahim Anwar expresses gratitude for the support he has received and acknowledges the role of platforms like Instagram and YouTube in expanding his reach and audience. The interaction conveys mutual respect and appreciation between Fahim Anwar and the interviewer, reflecting on his growth and success in the comedy industry.